Thank you, I have and they said they’re going to try build a claim for it. I was in the garage for 3 hours arguing about this. They have just told me the oil consumption is standard on this engine. But from what I’ve seen on Peugeot forums and here they are well aware there’s an issue with this type of engine.

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Edited by Xileno on 10/05/2022 at 10:36

""" They have just told me the oil consumption is standard on this engine"""

This is utter rubbish. My son's partner has the 2008 with the same engine and it uses NO oil.

Reading between the lies it appears that the dealer is being very defensive regarding Peugeot which unfortunately is very common in the industry. You would think has you are the customer of the garage they would be bending over backwards. keep the customer in the dark about other customers problems is their mantra. Their engine is a BIG problem to them hence the recall for cambelt checking

You clearly outlined here the saga of your car and the garage should have been making noises to Peugeot about the oil consumption and not waited until the engine destructed itself. You should not have had to argue for 3 hours to wake up the dealer to its responsibilities. In this instance you should deal with the service manager only and I would write to the MD of the dealership outlining what you have had to put up with.

If they have not submitted your claim by mid week I would get in touch with Peugeot customer services direct and do not be afraid to push your dissatisfaction with the garage.

The example on here gives you some idea of what you are up against and can only help your case. Keep pressing very hard and the best of British!

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Edited by Xileno on 10/05/2022 at 10:35

""" They have just told me the oil consumption is standard on this engine"""

This is utter rubbish. My son's partner has the 2008 with the same engine and it uses NO oil.

It is indeed rubbish. However, all engines, even well built ones, use a certain amount of oil. We have had a 2008 from new with this engine and I changed the oil myself at around 10,000 miles. After a further 2,000 miles there has been no discernible change in the level on the dipstick.

During its first 50,000 miles or so, an engine up to around 1.6 litres in size should not be using more than a litre of oil every 10,000 miles.

My three 1.6 Corollas and my 1.4 i30 used no significant oil between annual services at averages of 8,000 miles.

Sounds like the CT1188 was not fit for purpose.

"Even the smallest impurities like soot particles in the oil and crystalline compounds can cause parts of a BIO to become detached – and these can then clog the oil channels in the engine block, for instance, resulting in damage to the engine."

Looks like they are made of a rubber compound. .......

Interesting article. It seems these BsIO will only tolerate the right type of oil. I wonder if some failures were caused by a general practioner mechanic (or even a rogue 'specialist' Peugeot dealer) using any old cheap 0-30 oil out of the stock barrel instead of the recommended expensive PSA B71 2312 at the services between leaving the factory and belt failure. We shall never know - as few will admit to it. That's one of the reasons why I buy and change my own oil.

..... as I personally have no confidence in their brands as if they cannot recognise what a bad idea an in oil cam belt is what else have they badly designed?

Bought a swift with chain cam and Honda Jazz chain cam myself.

It's not the design, it's poor quality of the belt, the oil, and too long oil change intervals that caused many failures. Here's an interesting link to some info from the reputable Millers Oils outfit which has appeared since my last post.......

www.millersoils.co.uk/reducing-damage-to-wet-belt-.../

It's a puzzle why it took so long for the belt makers to improve their product.....

www.continental-aftermarket.com/en-en/magazine/tec...e

I have every confidence in MrsF's 2019 Peugeot 2008 but I have made a 1.6mm wide inspection tool just to check the belt width every 10,000 miles or so! I also change the oil myself after no more than 10,000 miles ensuring the right spec oil, not a multipurpose bog standard 0-30 out of a cheapo garage barrel.

A lot of manufacturers have secmverely shortened cam belt changes over the years for various reasons, unfortunately the Peugeot Citroen Vauxhall group have aparticularily expensive job due to its design £500 plus and the sump should be removed to remove debris from the oil pick up amongst other places.

It's worth noting the Ford Ecoboom has a similar reputation. My so unfortunately decided the 308 was the car for him with this engine and all relevant recalls were done prior to purchase upon close examination of the letters service records etc it transpired the belt should be changed at 64k not the 112k in the original schedule so we got it changed at a specialist and the belt was severely cracked fortunately we got away with it. There is a little stick tool you can use to check the belt width as a tell that the belt has been affected and has swelled making it wider.

What mileage the belts width would expand at I don't know but issues like this destroy confidence in the used market with traders and public affecting residuals, PSA should have stood by their product and paid for all changes outside the original schedule as that for me was the contract at the time of purchase.

They should have changed to a chain cam as soon as possible to restore confidence on their product as I personally have no confidence in their brands as if they cannot recognise what a bad idea an in oil cam belt is what else have they badly designed?

Bought a swift with chain cam and Honda Jazz chain cam myself.

Thanks for the info!